Andres Ramos Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) The most simple setup for obtaining images from moving water is using boiling water in a transparent kettle and taking shots from it. See more here More ITC images from boiling water Edited October 4, 2020 by Andres Ramos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lee Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Excellent. Water seems like a great medium for spirits. Agitated water (e.g., boiling), even better. How many frames do you collect in a typical experiment? I imagine you sift through each frame looking for anomalies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Ramos Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) Hi Michael. I take a movie from the setup with my smartphone. When it's done i use the android app Grabi to decompose the movie into single frames to watch. It's a bit tedious but if you are taking the effort then nothing will slip through your fingers. In total i analyze about 300 to 400 frames. Edited October 4, 2020 by Andres Ramos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Ramos Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Somehow the creature in the image reminds me of this beast The XFiles "The host" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona EVP Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 My setup was pretty simple as well. I set up in the laundry room because there was no pictures on the wall to reflect off the water. I used a yellow CFL light because of the approx 1Khz frequency and 120Hz flicker. As seen in the pic, I used a tall stainless steel pot with about 2 inches of water in it. When I was ready I would turn on the camera and jiggle the the tv tray. Then I'd review the video frame by frame. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona EVP Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 With EVP's working better with background texture, I used the same principle with water. Here's some examples using things like food coloring - laser pointer - crystals - and even a etched plate in the bottom of the pan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Ramos Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 Very well made, Ron! Most remarkably in your last picture there are clearly eyes to see! I am always amazed from this phenomenon because in my experiments I observed that eyes are often the first occurence of an upcoming face. They seem to form with ease. Maybe they are providing a lot of shaping energy. I agree that spirits need some kind of structure to manifest in water. Light or textures seem to help them. I observed the same with natural spirit images. I took magnified photos from the surface of a lake that was agitated by wind. With just the water I gained no results however when I photographed the reflection of twigs from trees in the water I got lots of images. Seems that water is a good medium but it has no structure. You have to imprint something into it. Surprisingly it's different with vapor. Boiling water brings good results without additional structures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Brooks Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 nice work! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Brooks Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Ive once looked into a pot of boing water once while cooking dinner...I was mesmerized, and felt a pull...I believe I was feeling spirit now that I see these images. Thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona EVP Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 On 10/24/2020 at 9:51 PM, Andres Ramos said: Very well made, Ron! Most remarkably in your last picture there are clearly eyes to see! I am always amazed from this phenomenon because in my experiments I observed that eyes are often the first occurence of an upcoming face. They seem to form with ease. Maybe they are providing a lot of shaping energy. I agree that spirits need some kind of structure to manifest in water. Light or textures seem to help them. I observed the same with natural spirit images. I took magnified photos from the surface of a lake that was agitated by wind. With just the water I gained no results however when I photographed the reflection of twigs from trees in the water I got lots of images. Seems that water is a good medium but it has no structure. You have to imprint something into it. Surprisingly it's different with vapor. Boiling water brings good results without additional structures. A while back, Jeremy Michael Bloxsom and I tried Rheoscopic ITC. Think of a kalliroscope. Things looked promising but I couldn't nail down a reliable way to slowly move the water within a small fishbowl. I thought of using glycerin but I never tried it. Also...I thought of trying a magnetic stirrer to create a water vortex and look for images at the event horizon. Made my own but felt a real stirrer would have produced better results. Ron 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Ramos Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 A vortex! This is a fascinating idea. I wonder if a vortex even could produce voices if one would catch the reflected light of a vortex with a phototransistor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Ramos Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Arizona EVP said: A while back, Jeremy Michael Bloxsom and I tried Rheoscopic ITC. Think of a kalliroscope. Things looked promising but I couldn't nail down a reliable way to slowly move the water within a small fishbowl. I thought of using glycerin but I never tried it. Also...I thought of trying a magnetic stirrer to create a water vortex and look for images at the event horizon. Made my own but felt a real stirrer would have produced better results. Ron Have you ever thought of using fine granular media like filings? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Ramos Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Chris said: nice work! I love the simplicity of those experiments. Excellent! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Brooks Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I wonder if the boiling water worked well because it was a natural transition or of an energy from one form to another, the water to steam. As we transition from flesh to spirit, such transformation or transference occurs. And in ITC....transition or transfer from one dimension to another. Emotions and physical pain can be transfered from spirit to flesh in the physical. It is all so interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Ramos Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 15 hours ago, Chris said: I wonder if the boiling water worked well because it was a natural transition or of an energy from one form to another, the water to steam. As we transition from flesh to spirit, such transformation or transference occurs. And in ITC....transition or transfer from one dimension to another. Emotions and physical pain can be transfered from spirit to flesh in the physical. It is all so interesting. A good point Chris. One of the first books I read after deciding to develop my spirituality was about magic and paranormal phenomena. The author wrote that the paranormal shows up as a transitional phenomenon lurking between the borders of different things. This accounts even for topology. He said that paranormal events occur everywhere when a landscape changes from valley to hills or dry ground to meadows or when you cross over from one part of a city to another that is structured differently. And in the end our way of spiritual evolvement is an endless chain of transitions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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